This Difficult Task
Episode 03 / 10.13.26
Stacey Shaw’s embezzlement, in her own words. Her defense attorney, in his first media interview about the case. An anomaly that no one can explain. And more questions than answers.
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Previously, on Overdrawn
She had to have known in her head that she was being caught or was in the process of being caught. So she just sort of blew them off. She literally, I don't think, ever came back to work.
They found the credit cards. The credit cards, they discovered and saw the crazy outrageous balances on them.
With regard to the embezzlement, the Defendant's conduct was shocking.
Information (United States v. Stacey Shaw, March 2021)Stacey Shaw opened six credit cards issued by the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local Union 712 Federal Credit Union, and fraudulently and without authorization raised the credit limits on each of the cards and made a combined $2,099,437.50 worth of charges and cash advances on the credit cards.
And all three of these folks, and myself, so four of us pored over the records trying to see if there's anything of great value we could claw back. And there was just nothing. I mean, she literally had blown the money.
My name is Andy Janning, and this is Overdrawn, Episode 3: This Difficult Task.
Those charges likely didn't come as a surprise to Stacey Shaw. Three days before prosecutors filed the Information, her attorney had already received a letter from the Department of Justice setting out an agreement under which Shaw would plead guilty.
Although the Information was filed on March 15, 2021, Stacey Shaw's defense attorney had received a letter from the Department of Justice dated three days earlier, the first line of which reads: "This letter sets forth the agreement by which your client, Stacey Shaw, will enter a plea of guilty in the above-captioned case."
That defense attorney is Samir Sarna.
I'm a criminal defense attorney based out of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And I represented Ms. Shaw back in 2021 and 2022, I believe it was, when her case was pending before the Western District.
This interview marks the first time he has spoken directly to the media about the investigation.
I have handled a fair amount of these types of offenses in both state and federal courts, whether it be credit union employees, bank employees, trustees and nonprofit organizations. So my initial take on the case, it was a fairly significant amount of money, and I understood at the time that it put the board in a pretty bad spot. They were worried about the union, that particular credit union possibly having to be disbanded or out of business due to what had taken place here.
Then you had Stacey that frankly didn't have the background credentials or education. And I believe she initially taken on a smaller role in the organization and then through time that grew. And I remember just being a little taken aback initially, how did she get in charge of that?
I mean what stood out most to me was as I got an understanding of the scheme, if you will, it seemed like rather low level in the sense that she was just opening up accounts that didn't exist and displacing funds that were in various accounts into these accounts that she then had access and control over the funds.
This wasn't one of the things that we pointed to in our memo, this wasn't a very sophisticated scheme.
You didn't have anything hidden really. This was all in plain sight had somebody just kinda looked at it and seen it. She was opening credit cards, and it's not like she was using a fictitious name or anything like that.
I mean, they were in her name.
Samir Sarna never contests that his client committed the crimes. A month after the Information was filed, Shaw waived the right to have a grand jury review the case and consented instead to the prosecutor bringing charges directly. This happens most frequently when the defendant and the prosecutor have reached an agreement to a guilty plea, which Shaw had.
There's no argument over her paying back the full amount of what she stole, either. The Court orders her to do so under the Mandatory Victims Restitution Act.
As mentioned in the previous episode, she owes just over $2.6 million, split among the National Credit Union Administration, CUMIS Insurance Society (an affiliate of TruStage), and the Internal Revenue Service.
The Court ordered her to sell property to satisfy the restitution order. The property she agrees to sell is her home in New Brighton, a small borough about four miles north of the town of Beaver.
According to property records, Stacey Shaw (then known by her married name of Stacey Ann Benetti), purchased the home in New Brighton in December of 2013, with a mortgage she obtained through the 712 credit union in the amount of $27,000.
The Court's restitution order regarding the sale of her home is filed on January 25, 2022. The order stipulates that she has just 15 days from that date to vacate her home permanently.
Stacey Shaw declined to participate in this documentary, so I can't say where she lived immediately after leaving the New Brighton property.
Exactly one year after the restitution order was filed, the sale of the house was recorded with Beaver County for $48,000. The net proceeds, by order of the Court, went directly to the National Credit Union Administration.
According to the Amended Judgment against her, "the defendant shall pay restitution that is imposed by this judgment… at a rate of not less than 10 percent of her gross monthly earnings."
The main argument her attorney makes is for leniency from the court in terms of where and how she should serve her time.
The downside of the lack of sophistication was that, it's right there in your face that, frankly, she did it, right? So you kinda have to balance pointing out a deficiency on the other side while still recognizing that ultimately it falls on your client, and you're seeking to get some kind of benefit out of that when it comes to sentencing.
Samir Sarna asked Judge Horan to allow Shaw to serve five years in home confinement rather than in federal prison, invoking the expanded use of home confinement during the COVID pandemic.
To that end, four statements arrive with the defense filings.
The first two are from Stacey Shaw's daughters. They ask the court for leniency for their mother.
That's all I'll say about those letters because her daughters didn't choose to participate in this podcast. The fact that they wrote to the judge is part of the record of this case. Everything else belongs to them.
The third letter comes from a young man close to the family. His letter also asks the court for leniency as well.
The fourth statement is from Stacey Shaw herself. It is the longest of the four, typed and single-spaced, filling one full page then extending almost halfway into a second, signed in the looping hand of her full maiden name, Stacey Ann Shaw, writing to the federal judge who will decide her sentence. Excerpts read here by a voice actor.
First and foremost I would like to apologize for my actions that led to so many people who counted on me and trusted me to being let down, angry, hurt and untrusting of not only me but possibly regarding other financial institutions as well. I am deeply ashamed of my actions and myself. The fact that the entire credit union no longer exists because of me tortures me every day. …
I love the credit union and all of it's members. Many members became like family. I was employed there from December 29, 2004 until February 28, 2020. In 2004 I only worked 2 days a week. … I am not certain of the dates that I started working full time, but it wasn't for several years later… somewhere between 2011 and 2012.
In 2013, Shaw attended the first year of a three-year management school run by the national trade association for credit unions. By her own account, she nearly failed it. She writes that she tested out at a D, almost an F, and that if those grades had stood she would not have been allowed back the following year. The class was recalculated and she finished with what she calls a very low C. She was permitted to return.
According to her, she couldn't finish the final two years because
the manager would constantly put up road blocks for me so that I could not attend. I was not able to attend without her approval.
In full disclosure: Since 2016, I've been a faculty member of the management school to which Stacey Shaw refers. The national credit union trade association that runs it is called America's Credit Unions.
At the time Shaw attended the school, ACU was known as the Credit Union National Association.
The session I teach is a half-day workshop for the third-year students on management and leadership. Stacey Shaw was never in my session.
Then, in 2016 the manager fell very ill unexpectedly. I assumed responsibilities of President and CEO (Manager) effective January 1, 2017. The board told the previous manager that they would hire me but that she needed to stay on and help until I knew what all the job entailed and give me training, since I had virtually none. She agreed, but as time went on she was doing the work and not teaching me, just as she had done previously. Her answer was always the same, 'I will teach you next month, right now I just need to get this done'.
When I took over as manager I did not know how to balance a ledger or fold member statements. The previous manager said on many many occasions that it was her job to do those things and when I was the manager I could learn on my own. Just like she had. This was a monumental task that I did my absolute best at. I was failing. I was falling apart. My mind was always on the credit union. I did online research, I asked colleagues. It was nonstop. I couldn't think about anything but how I was letting everyone down. I couldn't do that. Too many people counted on me.
She's referring to family challenges at home, including
my Gram was sick and my mom was trying to adjust to her new normal after falling life changingly ill. I had too many demands and didn't know how to or couldn't figure out how to ask for more help. The board was trying. I was trying. We were all in unfamiliar territory.
And, during that time I started to increase the limits on my credit card. I was just trying to keep everyone taken care of and I was trying to give my mind a break. I was so tired all the time. Constantly tired. …
I couldn't remember the things I had done or that I was currently doing. I was, in all honesty, a mess.
This was not intentionally malicious behavior. I did not even think to set money aside to help myself out in the future. I was just trying to make it through each day.
There is no excuse. I accept all responsibility. I will take any punishment that you feel is due. I will pay any and all restitution. The only other thing that I would like to add is to respectfully ask you for leniency. Leniency in my sentence. Leniency in how I will serve my time. My daughters are my whole life and I am theirs. …
Judge Horan, I am so thankful that you have taken time to read this letter. I humbly thank you for your consideration during this difficult task before you.
On January 19, 2022, Judge Marilyn J. Horan handed down the sentence: Stacey Shaw must serve 51 months for the embezzlement and 12 months for willful failure to file a federal tax return. She will serve that time concurrently, but she must serve it in federal prison.
The requests for leniency from those who love and care about her, and Stacey Shaw's own respectful plea to serve her sentence at home aren't enough to keep her from behind bars.
For the press, the story ends there.
Within days of the sentencing, the Beaver County Times, the local CBS TV affiliate, various financial industry publications, and the Department of Justice all have versions of the story with terms like "embezzlement," "multiple years in prison," "credit union closure," and "over two million dollars" in their headlines.
Newsweek's article is bannered by "Credit Union CEO Bought Pig Farm with Stolen Millions" and features a stock photo of several pigs, captured at snout-level and peering into the lens like an alt-rock album cover, not once but twice in their piece.
The FBI's own news story, published a month after the sentence was handed down, is one of the most complete, not surprising considering they were, as they themselves state, the ones who were contacted after 712 was audited.
The FBI draws the same general shape of the allegations against Shaw, and what she confessed to: 6 unauthorized cards, $2.1 million spent over three years, none of it authorized or allowed, 51 months in federal prison.
But while the prosecution's filings listed where she spent the embezzled funds, the FBI's story gives more about what she bought:
She bought some land and spent a lot of money into outfitting that land for her use.
She bought ATVs, four-wheelers, four sheds, pigs. At one point, she had a horse and some really big rabbits. A lot of money went into funding that effort.
'A lot of money spent' implies there would be something substantial to recoup. But,
The property is actually worth less than what she bought it for. Nothing that she had left would actually make a profit for the government.
That tracks with what Samir Sarna, Shaw's defense attorney, remembers.
And I could be very well mixing it up with the pig farm, but there was mention of some kind of property that they did want to have seized. But my recollection is once they actually peeled the layers of that onion, they decided they didn't want to deal with it.
Here are the final two paragraphs of the FBI article about Stacey Shaw. And because the FBI declined to participate in this documentary, these may be the final two paragraphs they may ever say about Stacey Shaw:
[C]ases like Shaw's are not uncommon, and state and local police departments don't always have enough personnel to tackle these types of investigations. The FBI can often assist with additional investigators and expertise.
FBI article (quoting Special Agent Samantha Bell)We do see a lot of people stealing, especially employees with access to funds. It's a crime that happens a lot.
By the time the FBI tells the world why and how they put Stacey Shaw behind bars, she's preparing to surrender herself to Federal Medical Center Lexington, a prison in Kentucky nearly 400 miles away which its website says is an "administrative security federal medical center with an adjacent minimum security satellite camp."
Crime, justice, punishment. Sunrise, sunset. Write the report, close the case, open the next one. It happens a lot, apparently.
The nebula of facts that has swirled around the closure of 712 and the crimes of Stacey Shaw for nearly two years is collapsing into a star around which the public's final understanding of the case will spin:
To Samir Sarna, she didn't have the credentials:
Then you had Stacey that frankly didn't have the background credentials or education… [a]nd I remember just being a little taken aback initially, how did she get in charge of that?
And in Stacey Shaw's own words:
I had too many demands and didn't know how to or couldn't figure out how to ask for more help… I was, in all honesty, a mess.
But back at West Penn, for Helen and her board of directors, it doesn't end that neatly.
That is my question. How did you miss that Visa?
"Walter" (West Penn board member; not his real name)We did not understand how this happened. How could they not catch this? So once again, I'm still asking that question.
Shaw brought up the examiners herself, in her letter to the judge. She writes that 712's board of directors…
was written up by the federal examiner(s) on more than one occasion for not getting me proper training.
In May 2026, I asked the NCUA for those records through a request made under the Freedom of Information Act. I asked for examination reports for this credit union during the time Stacey Shaw led it, for the supervisory letters the agency sent to the board of 712, for communications and records associated with the liquidation. Six weeks later the agency sent me two hundred fifty-four pages of charter and liquidation records, and withheld the examinations and the letters to the board entirely.
Not even one page, not even in redacted form.
Among the reasons NCUA gave was Exemption 8, the provision of the Freedom of Information Act that shields bank examination records from release.
The agency said disclosure would cause foreseeable harm, because liquidation matters were still ongoing. That letter is dated June of 2026. The credit union was liquidated over six years earlier, in May of 2020. The letter doesn't say to what liquidation matters it refers.
One week before this episode was recorded, the agency's Inspector General, the office that reviews NCUA's own work, released part of its file on 712's failure in response to another Freedom of Information Act request.
It describes Stacey Shaw when she took over as President and CEO of 712. At that time, the file says, she had "limited knowledge of loans, investments, and accounting." Whether the board was ever written up over her training, the pages released to me don't say.
What the record does show is who held Stacey Shaw's job before she did, which brings us to an unexplained anomaly in her letter to Judge Horan.
It likely slips by on a casual or quick reading, done maybe in the same sitting as the other letters in the file. Shaw's one-and-a-half typewritten pages are her version of the story of a young woman with a part-time job at the local credit union, earning money here and there for a few years until part-time becomes full-time. She wants to do her best during those now-full weekdays, so she starts Credit Union Management School, but (her words again, in a voice actor's reading):
the manager would constantly put up road blocks for me so that I could not attend.
Then, in 2016,
the manager fell very ill unexpectedly
and Stacey Shaw steps into the role.
I assumed responsibilities of President and CEO (Manager) effective January 1, 2017.
The board tells the outgoing manager to stay on long enough to train Stacey Shaw. The outgoing manager agrees, but
as time went on she was doing the work and not teaching me, just as she had done previously. Her answer was always the same, 'I will teach you next month, right now I just need to get this done'.
The manager has left Stacey Shaw with
a monumental task
weighing down a woman who was already dealing with
my mom was trying to adjust to her new normal after falling life changingly ill.
A plain reading of Stacey Shaw's letter is that her manager and her mother are two different people. But they're not.
Before Stacey Shaw was promoted to CEO of the 712 credit union, her manager was her mother.
The sick mom in one sentence and the manager putting up road blocks in another are the same woman: Jill Shaw, the previous CEO of the 712 credit union.
A couple days before the statements filed with the court, her defense attorney Samir Sarna submitted the Defendant's Sentencing Memorandum. In it, the distinction is clear: "prior to Ms. Shaw's term as President and CEO, her mother held the position."
Knowing the manager was her mother changes the way the letter reads. But it doesn't tell us why Stacey Shaw left that relationship unnamed.
There is a financial element to that relationship, visible in Beaver County's own property records.
The manager who, by her daughter's account, would not teach her to balance a ledger is the same woman whose notary seal sits on her daughter's mortgages from the 712 credit union in 2004 and 2006. By December of 2013, when Stacey Shaw signs a twenty-seven-thousand-dollar note for the house in New Brighton, her mother Jill Shaw signs three times on the same sheet of paper: as a witness, as the notary, and as president and CEO of the lender.
Maybe Jill Shaw was doing her job the way she was trained. Her daughter's letter suggests so; near the end of the first page there's another line that goes by fast, where Stacey says her boss told her that she needed to learn the CEO job on her own…
Just like she had.
According to Stacey Shaw's account, her mother Jill had also been expected to learn the manager's job largely on her own. But who had managed 712 before Jill?
That answer is in another document, this one from 1964 and obtained from the NCUA through the same Freedom of Information Act request mentioned earlier.
The document in question is an application filed by 7 men living in and around Beaver. They joined together to ask the federal government to let them operate together as a federal credit union. The common bond for their federal credit union was the members of IBEW Local 712, employees of that local union and the new credit union, and their immediate families.
The Bureau of Federal Credit Unions approved the men's request on March 5th, 1964, and the IBEW Local Union 712 Federal Credit Union was born.
The first man to lead it is one of the 7 who signed the application. His name was Russell Bowser. He was Stacey Shaw's grandfather, and was Jill Shaw's father.
But he wasn't who Jill took over for.
That would be Russell's wife, Betty Ann Bowser. She ran the 712 credit union after her husband Russell. Then Jill. Then Stacey.
Four successive managers and CEOs from one family. Inside a cooperative owned by local members of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
I asked Lee Karl, the former Assistant US Attorney who prosecuted Stacey Shaw, from whom you heard in the previous episode, about this anomaly in her letter:
The issue you just raised, I don't remember if we discussed that internally amongst ourselves on the investigation team or the prosecution team. I mean, we did know the family had a long history there… [t]o the extent she was criticizing her previous boss, it would've been her mother. But at the time, I don't remember us talking about that or thinking much of it.
I asked Samir Sarna about his client's explanation of the scheme, and about the anomaly in her letter to the judge.
I mean, there was a pig farm that what I understood was that it was not actually being used for that purpose and it was just sort of not maintained and not worth the deed that was printed for it. And then there was some vehicles that had been turned over so many times that they were underwater or upside down.
Andy JanningWell, yeah, I mean that definitely corresponds to the text exchange you and I had about this case being different than other crimes that you had handled because there were very little assets seized. And so she's basically spending on just a bunch of household items, it sounds like.
Samir SarnaYeah. I don't know what… And her and I, I don't want to get into privilege too much, but we tried to flesh that out and I just wasn't able to get information that would help our position.
Andy JanningWas there anything about her explanation of it that she seemed to be holding back that there was another reason for it? Because I mean, if I'm doing the math, like you said, two million and change, that comes out to, I mean, I'm not a math whiz, but that's like $1,900 a day on basically from what the government's saying, Netflix and Amazon Prime and going out to eat. I'm just trying to make the math work out here.
Samir SarnaNo, I mean, look, we're on the same page there. I agree with you and I find that, again, I got to be a little careful, but I find that to be an issue in a lot of cases like this. We had one, I don't want to get too off-topic, but we had one where…
Sarna tells me about a client in an unrelated case, a scheme targeting senior citizens. The client said he believed he'd been making legitimate cryptocurrency investments, and Sarna had no reason to doubt him until he sat down with the government.
And within five minutes, they gave me every document that showed this guy had knowledge of what he was doing. He knew that it was not at all connected to what he's been telling me.
So I say that to say this. I don't always… I try to ask the questions to get the full picture, but I find that as opposed to, like, a drug case or DUI or a violent act, these kinds of cases where there's a theft or a money scheme, even the defendants try to, like, downplay it, or… I think it's just something in the… the makeup of somebody that's committing this type of crime that they want to sorta wanna hide the ball or maybe not give you the full story.
Andy JanningI was going through the sentencing memo, or the statement that Stacey made to the court before the sentencing. She refers to these difficulties that she had with her previous manager at the credit union and also trying to cope with her mom falling ill. In the letter though, she never explicitly mentions that those are the same person. But I know in your filings you had made that lineage very, very clear. So I'm just trying to understand why you made that connection very clear. Why didn't her statement do the same? And I realize again, if I'm knocking against a privilege wall here, I will understand that, but I found that difference strange.
Samir SarnaYeah, I mean that's a very fair point. Honestly, sometimes I try not to dig into that too much because I don't want to get an answer that I don't like and then have to disclose more than I already have to a court. So that's a hard one to give you a direct answer on, but I think it just plays into the personality type as well. Just more reluctant to give you the full disclosure.
Did that happen here? Next episode starts the search for that answer, when I hand 712's financials to a former NCUA examiner without telling him how 712 collapsed, and ask him what he would have seen. And once he gets the full story:
You have my head spinning on this one. I give you credit, I thought I'd seen it all… this is new.
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Where this episode's facts come from
Every factual claim in this episode traces to a document or an on-record interview. Public records and published coverage are linked below. Federal court filings are available through PACER; property records are held by the Beaver County Recorder of Deeds.
Court record
- United States v. Stacey Shaw, No. 2:21-cr-00102-MJH U.S. District Court, Western District of Pennsylvania (PACER) The Information was filed March 15, 2021. Shaw waived indictment and pleaded guilty on April 16, 2021, and was sentenced January 19, 2022 to 51 months on the embezzlement count and 12 months on the tax count, served concurrently.
- Plea agreement letter U.S. Attorney's Office to defense counsel; filed with ECF No. 8, April 16, 2021
- Defendant's Sentencing Memorandum ECF No. 29, January 12, 2022 Requests five years of house arrest, citing the CARES Act, and states that her mother held the position of President and CEO before her.
- Letters to the court in support of the defendant, including Stacey Shaw's statement ECF No. 30, January 14, 2022 Excerpts of Shaw's statement are read in the episode. The letters are not reproduced here.
- Stipulation and order on the sale of real property ECF Nos. 35 and 36, January 24 and 25, 2022
- Judgment and amended judgments ECF Nos. 33, 34 and 39, January and September 2022
- Former Federal Credit Union President Sentenced to More than Four Years in Prison for Embezzlement and Failing to File Taxes U.S. Attorney's Office, Western District of Pennsylvania, January 19, 2022
Property records
- Mortgages from IBEW Local Union 712 Federal Credit Union, 2004 and 2006 Beaver County Recorder of Deeds Both carry the notarial seal of Jill K. Shaw.
- Mortgage from IBEW Local Union 712 Federal Credit Union, December 6, 2013 Beaver County Recorder of Deeds, recorded February 28, 2014 $27,000 to Stacey Ann Benetti, signed by Jill K. Shaw as notary and, for the lender, as president and CEO.
- Deed for the sale of the New Brighton home Beaver County Recorder of Deeds, recorded January 25, 2023 Consideration of $48,000.
NCUA records
- Response to FOIA request 2026-FOI-146 NCUA Office of General Counsel, June 17, 2026 Released 254 pages (65 in full, 189 with redactions) of charter and liquidation records, including the 1964 charter application. Withheld examination records and supervisory correspondence in full under Exemption 8.
- Partial release of the Office of Inspector General's file on the credit union's failure NCUA Office of Inspector General, 2026
Law
- 18 U.S.C. § 3663A, Mandatory restitution to victims of certain crimes Mandatory Victims Restitution Act
- 5 U.S.C. § 552(b)(8) Freedom of Information Act, Exemption 8 Shields records related to the examination of financial institutions.
Coverage
- CEO's Theft Leads to Closure of Credit Union FBI, February 17, 2022 Quotes Special Agent Samantha Bell of the FBI's Pittsburgh Field Office.
- Credit Union CEO Bought Pig Farm with Stolen Millions: FBI Newsweek, February 17, 2022
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